*whine*

[tigriswolf]

Why are there so many character X/original character fics in the world?  I don't care about them interacting with Mary Sue!  If they have to be with someone, how about someone they actually know in canon?

And where are all the Wolverine/Sabertooth fics?  The movie's been out an entire weekend!

Comments

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

Well...I hope you're suffering from an overload of stories with *bad* OCs. As someone who's created a number of OCs over the years, and grown kind of fond of some of them, I have to stand up in defense of OCs. When they work, they can be pretty awesome. ;)

I'll say, too, that unless a writer gets the chance to experiment with OCs, and learn what's good or bad about them, they'll never be able to expand and improve their craft.

Hopping down off my "Give OCs a Chance!" pedestal now...

[tigriswolf]

Yes, I mean the "Mary Sue steps out of the woodwork and is so pretty character X has to love her and be with her and she's so much better than ANYONE EVER." *deep breath*

I do like OCs. I have created some. But when their sole purpose is just to be better or live out the author's fantasies--that's when it gets annoying. And there are so many like that.

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

There's just so much bad fic, period. *sighs* It's tough for me to remember, sometimes, that people are posting their stories just out of sheer joy and love of the show. I go down lists of fic and click on things that sound interesting, read two paragraphs and go, "Umm...no." Makes me want to curl up in a ball.

As far as characters existing just to be OMG SHINY!!!!... My head will never stop aching from the sheer torment that is Lana Lang.

Back to edit to ask: do you find there are authors who can handle canon characters really well, and it's just their OCs who suck? I'm trying to think of an instance of a good, strong, imaginative writer who just faceplants with OCs.

[tigriswolf]

There's just so much bad fic, period. *sighs* It's tough for me to remember, sometimes, that people are posting their stories just out of sheer joy and love of the show. I go down lists of fic and click on things that sound interesting, read two paragraphs and go, "Umm...no." Makes me want to curl up in a ball.

I know! I read the premise and it looks so good, then I get started on the fic and want to cry. I am very picky, I admit that, but grammar is IMPORTANT.

I remember not minding season 1 Lana, but then I stopped watching until season 4, which I got for graduation. She was so frickin' annoying, and poor Jason was in love with her(or, it was plot instigated by his mother, whichever).

I think there are some authors that can do OCs well, like reading1066, but she's also really good with canon characters. Um. I can't think of anyone who just sucks at OCs. Generally, if they can't create real people OCs they can't do other people's characters either, and I stop reading. (Does that sentence make sense outside of my head?)

[ficwriter1966.livejournal.com]

Agreed! There are so many folks who are almost gleeful about being un-beta'ed, but they really do need help with grammar, spelling, punctuation. All the housekeeping stuff. When there's a ton of mistakes, I find that I can't focus on the story. It's like being repeatedly flicked in the head while I'm trying to read.

Season 4 - I remember there being a scene where Jason's mom walks into the Talon and is literally halted in her tracks by how stunningly gorgeous Lana is. And TELLS HER. For some reason, the writers felt a need to tell the audience at least once an episode how OMG SHINY Lana is. Maybe it's because none of us actually thinks so.

Yep, the sentence makes sense. Seems that if someone's bad with characterization, it doesn't matter whether the character is their own or someone else's.

[noybusiness.livejournal.com]

I mostly agree. The original character would have to be very well-written. I prefer interactions with people they already know, or canon characters from other 'verses.

[tigriswolf]

Yeah.

gee i see a pretty good writer *whining*

[catdancerz.livejournal.com]

when you could be writing instead :>

*ahem*

i mean, um...you've seen the movie already :>

*takes LARGE stick and pokes repeatedly*

Re: gee i see a pretty good writer *whining*

[tigriswolf]

*hee* Stop poking me!

I think I want to see it again.

[ratherbe4gotten.livejournal.com]

No fic... but ponderosa has posted some kind of interesting, very NSFW art HERE (http://ponderosa121.insanejournal.com/65436.html) XD

I've yet to find an OC I've liked, at least not when they've been paired with the character that's the focus of the fic. I think that's maybe why I have such a hard time finding het that I like too >.<  

[tigriswolf]

If the fic has an OC, I'd prefer it be from their pov about canon characters doing whatever it is they do. Not an epic romance between the OC and Dean Winchester, say. Or Sabertooth. Or Rorschach, for god's sake. You know?

[ratherbe4gotten.livejournal.com]

Actually, now I think of it I HAVE read a few things from an OC POV that's I've enjoyed (wolfpack 'verse comes to mind).

Ha! I'm pretty sure Sabertooth would rip another person apart before getting close enough to have sex with them, let alone have an any kind of romance. If someone could pull that off, without making me want to put my eyes out, I think they'd deserve some kind of award.

[tigriswolf]

The only meaningful sexual relationship I can see Sabertooth having(you know, beyond want, take, have) is with Wolverine.

[astrothsknot.livejournal.com]

OC does not equal Mary Sue.

If they have to be with someone, how about someone they actually know in canon?

So you'll stop writing crossovers then? Pity.

My whole flist wishes to know where the W/S is.

[tigriswolf]

OC does not equal Mary Sue.

I know that. I was just annoyed by the Pit's selection of X-Men fic. There are some very well rounded, real OCs out there, I just couldn't find any when I was looking.

And I totally spaced out on realizing that Dean could never interact with Alec if it weren't crossovers. *facepalm*

Have you seen Wolverine?

[acarbonatedgirl.livejournal.com]

If I make an OC, it's generally to terrorize someone to do backstory or be side character. Running around in manga fandom for a long while made me exceptionally bitter to OC's. I keep my tree of OC's in my notebooks and with my batshit friends. Cameo or two in fic is fine but starring?

No. GTFO.

Give the fic time~. It'll come. Y'could always look way into Marvel fandom, but going there is not... pretty.

[tigriswolf]

Marvel--which one is that? I can never keep DC and Marvel straight. DC is Batman, right?

[acarbonatedgirl.livejournal.com]

Marvel is Wolvie and Sabertooth and, yes, DC = Batman and Supes. DC is more on pounding people's faces in and Marvel's more for dialogue.

[tigriswolf]

You know what would be awesome? Batman meets Wolverine! I'm thinking, after he lost his memories.

[acarbonatedgirl.livejournal.com]

TDK!Bats, I presume. I want to mesh it, but I've no idea how.

have a look-see at this. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Claw)

[tigriswolf]

Okay, that is awesome.

[acarbonatedgirl.livejournal.com]

I literally squee'd when I found my Dad's Dark Claw and Amazon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_(Amalgam_Comics)) Amalgam comics. Four of my favorite characters condensed into two. ♥

[tigriswolf]

I just ordered the first issue of "Dark Claw".

[sadelyrate.livejournal.com]

Bones jar against bones, blood wild in their veins, aphrodisiac on their tongues as they claw their way towards release, the tang as sharp as their secrets.

They fit together, slip, slide, teeth, claws; bones break, skin's shredded, the pain perfects the pleasure with each new burst of adrenaline and endorphins.
It's wrong to want this, take this, give this and he fights it, all of it, him(self), time and again because he should. Every time, it seems, he loses faster.

It goes past his brains, taps into his instincts, brings out the rabidity; they clash and burn, struggle for submission, teeth over jugular until growls become whines.

They mark each other, scar their souls because no brand, no slash ever remains beyond a breath on their mut(il)ated bodies.

[tigriswolf]

Oh, you!

*suggles in tight*

You'll love it, I'm sure. Thank you so much!

Meep, that last line...