*is wicked*
Oct. 22nd, 2009 09:45 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
tigriswolf(If you're religious, you might want to avoid the following. I dunno. *shrugs*)
So, on Tuesday I was the victim of a drive-by preaching. Meaning, I got ambushed in the bathroom at school, by a girl who acted like we knew each other, who followed me out of the bathroom, and who then proceeded to lecture me on the wonders of accepting Jesus Christ into my life for somewhere around ten minutes.
The thing is, I grew up Methodist. I went to a Baptist school for thirteen years. I know all about Jesus and God and how much burning forever in Hell will suck when I die without being saved. *yawn*
I'm sure there's something up there in the sky. Maybe a giant cloud pooping out worlds, who knows. But is it the God I learned about, who ordered entire nations killed for stupid shit, who had his angel kill all the firstborn of Egypt, which included newborn babies? Because that's not a God I can love and trust and follow. And I know all about the New Testament, too, the new covenant of love. I just... can't follow any of it. You know? It never clicked with me, I guess, and being bombarded with every day just built up my immunity.
Or maybe God's hardened my heart, as he is wont to do. *scoff*
Anyway, the whole point of this anecdote is to tell you that I've been cast as Death and God in my Milton class. About thirty minutes after the drive-by preaching. *hee*
(Also, please don't take this opportunity to preach at me. I've heard it all before. And I actually thought up (what I think is) a fairly good argument earlier today: When you can tell me what sin a newborn baby has committed, I'll believe in your God. I just can't fathom that anything is born sinful and evil and fallen.)
So, on Tuesday I was the victim of a drive-by preaching. Meaning, I got ambushed in the bathroom at school, by a girl who acted like we knew each other, who followed me out of the bathroom, and who then proceeded to lecture me on the wonders of accepting Jesus Christ into my life for somewhere around ten minutes.
The thing is, I grew up Methodist. I went to a Baptist school for thirteen years. I know all about Jesus and God and how much burning forever in Hell will suck when I die without being saved. *yawn*
I'm sure there's something up there in the sky. Maybe a giant cloud pooping out worlds, who knows. But is it the God I learned about, who ordered entire nations killed for stupid shit, who had his angel kill all the firstborn of Egypt, which included newborn babies? Because that's not a God I can love and trust and follow. And I know all about the New Testament, too, the new covenant of love. I just... can't follow any of it. You know? It never clicked with me, I guess, and being bombarded with every day just built up my immunity.
Or maybe God's hardened my heart, as he is wont to do. *scoff*
Anyway, the whole point of this anecdote is to tell you that I've been cast as Death and God in my Milton class. About thirty minutes after the drive-by preaching. *hee*
(Also, please don't take this opportunity to preach at me. I've heard it all before. And I actually thought up (what I think is) a fairly good argument earlier today: When you can tell me what sin a newborn baby has committed, I'll believe in your God. I just can't fathom that anything is born sinful and evil and fallen.)
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Date: 2009-10-23 02:58 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:56 am (UTC)As Death, I'm gonna wear all black and a trenchcoat. As God, I'm a voiceover speaking to the Son(a skinny dude in a white suit).
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Date: 2009-10-23 03:00 am (UTC)(Hope this doesn't count as preaching, but the best I've been able to figure with the newborn baby is that it's got something to do with being the product of a woman or sex. Only the Catholic Church seems to have the balls to say that outright though.)
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Date: 2009-10-23 03:54 am (UTC)(No, that doesn't. It's also not surprising. *sigh*)
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Date: 2009-10-23 07:47 am (UTC)"Better parties."
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:45 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:15 am (UTC)Death and God! That is too cool! (By the way, have you read The Book Thief? It's narrated by Death)
(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:52 am (UTC)(I've never heard of that before. I'll go look it up.)
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Date: 2009-10-23 03:39 am (UTC)The bible may be divinely inspired, but inspiration is easy to come by; a book is written by man, for man, and then read and interpreted by man.
The god of Abraham is a petty, jealous vindictive fucktard who admits the existence of other gods and DOES NOT DISPLAY the Christian traits of omnipotence and omniscience.
Omnipotent gods don't rest, and omniscient gods don't have to send angles to find shit out.
The god of Jesus makes no sense, because by the strict biblical logic of 'Know Jesus=Heaven/No Jesus=Hell', the entire world went to hell, Native American, Indian, Japanese, Roman, for a good 1700 years.
And that makes no sense in a covenant of love.
So someones book must be a tad bit small.
As for preachers?
Fuck em.
Drop Predestination vs free-will on them and watch em squirm.
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Date: 2009-10-23 03:51 am (UTC)Also, in that same Milton class, the teacher made an interesting point: did Jesus die for the Martians?
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Date: 2009-10-23 05:09 am (UTC)I'm one of those people who is spiritual but not religious. I don't believe Christ was divine - so I'm a non-Christian by definition. And I don't believe I'll go to Hell.
For me, the Christ story worked better in The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe.
I also enjoy the His Dark Materials trilogy (The Golden Compass, The Subtle Knife, The Amber Spyglass), which is pretty much all about rejecting the God of the Bible. He's really the oldest angel who is lying to everyone, he is old and demented and gets mercy-killed by Lyra and Will, "original sin" is Dust - the source of consciousness and thus a good thing, etc. Plus cool creatures like the daemons, panserbjorne, witches, and mulefa.
These are mulefa: http://images.google.com/images?q=Mulefa&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7DKUS_en&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=sjnhSpW_KYKZ8Ab3p7n1AQ&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBAQsAQwAA
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:48 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:13 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-28 04:05 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-28 04:08 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-28 04:16 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-28 04:12 am (UTC)What purpose is life, this 'test' and 'trial', if god knew from the outset, what the result would be? There is nothing we can do to change the outcome, and nothing will happen that god does not expressly WANT to have happen.
God is all powerful, he is in all things, he is the universe come physical form; as such, all that happens in it is his will, because silence from an omnipotent being is desire.
Therefor, god wants to send you to hell when you're born (Before, really, but we can only measure our lives in certain terms) or he wants to send you to heaven.
And theres not a goddamn thing you can do about it. The book is already written, all we can do is follow along.
Do I believe that? No.
I don't believe in an all powerful god that gives a shit if I touch my self (Something he designed my body to do!) or think impure thoughts. :)
(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 04:05 am (UTC)You know, I can really see you as Death and God. :) Congrats!
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:51 pm (UTC)Thanks! Everyone else are demons and Satan and the Son and Uriel, but I get to be a shapeless black blob and not onscreen, since God is just a voiceover. *hee* What's kind of funny is that a few years ago, I went as the Grim Reaper for Halloween. I still have the scyth.
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Date: 2009-10-23 05:59 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 06:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:40 pm (UTC)It was al dente.
(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 06:31 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 05:14 am (UTC)Take that you crazy "save the sinner" religious people!
(I really hope you have *so much fun* with that)
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:52 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 06:56 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 06:32 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 07:05 am (UTC)I think your Druid/Pooping worlds theory has as much merit as anything else. I wouldn't consider trying to find sense in the bible--things written by committees never scan well, but some of the stories make interesting reading, or essay topics..lol
It is no wonder there are so many fanatics--trying to interpret the bible has driven them mad;)
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 03:41 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 06:33 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 08:12 pm (UTC)Also, I have no idea why the first post didn't show up, and now it does. *facepalm*
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Date: 2009-10-27 03:12 am (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-27 08:20 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 07:37 am (UTC)Because I couldn't resist Jesus, facepalming (http://wsilva.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/jesus-facepalm.jpg)
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Date: 2009-10-23 01:54 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 09:07 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-23 10:53 pm (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 2009-10-28 03:56 am (UTC)Good luck on your play!
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Date: 2009-10-28 05:54 pm (UTC)