To Shaw VS Magneto, I took the lack of squashitude as Magneto's understanding that Shaw's capacity to absorb any energy input and redirect it exponentially as output would have doomed his own punkin had he tried crushing Shaw's ... an act based on the investment of energy that wouldn't have harmed Shaw (just as a nuclear detonation under his ass wouldn't harm him), only loaded him up with lots of spare wattage to unleash in new directions, his direction of logical choice being Magneto himself.
Magneto wanted to kill Shaw in the way he'd been obsessing over for decades; and he also realized that helmet would be awful handy for him to own...and easier to use if he didn't have to rinse Shaw's brains out of it first.
But I don't think they actually knew the helmet blocked telepathy until Magneto figured it out during the confrontation-the room itself seemed to block Charles, as well, only opening up to his "sight" when they started smashing it up. So they wouldn't have immediately assumed it was the helmet; and the only other people who'd seen Shaw in it before were the recruits, who might have been too freaked out by the carnage to put together the quiet clues of oh, the telepath isn't here, I can take this off.
Charles couldn't stop Shaw until the helmet was off, even after smashing up the room. I'd think in that moment of "aha!" realization, Magneto would think of using it for himself, keeping it not crushing it, because he knew the temptation it would put on Charles to stop ~him by force. He's a man used to long term planning, after all.
I think it had something to do with the kinetic energy that would have been produced. In the film, everytime someone tries to kill Shaw, it's via a means that produces energy: bullets= the force of being fired; Alex's blast= an explosion, etc. Shaw took the energy made from each, absorbed it, restructured it, and rebounded it.
With the coin, Erik was moving it mentally, so there was no physically form of energy pushing it forward, and it was moving slowly, so there was little to no energy produced as it was travelling. If Erik had squished his head, the force might have been enough for Shaw to rebound it. Also, I'm not entirely sure that thing was made out of metal.
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Date: 2012-01-05 01:51 am (UTC)... the dreaming-about-it-for-decades thing works, too.
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Date: 2012-01-05 02:06 am (UTC)Charles couldn't stop Shaw until the helmet was off, even after smashing up the room. I'd think in that moment of "aha!" realization, Magneto would think of using it for himself, keeping it not crushing it, because he knew the temptation it would put on Charles to stop ~him by force. He's a man used to long term planning, after all.
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Date: 2012-01-05 12:32 am (UTC)With the coin, Erik was moving it mentally, so there was no physically form of energy pushing it forward, and it was moving slowly, so there was little to no energy produced as it was travelling. If Erik had squished his head, the force might have been enough for Shaw to rebound it. Also, I'm not entirely sure that thing was made out of metal.
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