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Date: 2007-08-25 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soxykitty.livejournal.com
I've never heard of Tantalus or Blue Beard... was I deprived as a child?

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Date: 2007-08-26 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soxykitty.livejournal.com
Oh thanks... those are interesting.

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Date: 2007-08-25 05:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
No, most likely, you had a childhood with normal children's light-hearted age-appropriate entertainment.

Tigriswolf and I were clearly exposed to the darker side of previous generations' imaginations.

You know, before fairy tales were Disneyfied and Cinderella's stepsisters amputated their toes to fit the slipper and the Little Mermaid died and talking animals who guided the hero/ine were typically murdered, and in fact often *asked* for death as part of their reward.

Which... explains a lot, actually.

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Date: 2007-08-25 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
Oh yeah. Death is handled so cavelierly in them. Not just things like Hansel and Gretal's witch burning up. Like Big Hans and Little Hans and the dead grandmother.

And did you ever notice how frequently talking animal guides meet aweful fates? The Goose-Girl? With the disembodied horse's head hanging over the city gates and yet still giving her advice. Or Billy Budd's bull. Or that one with the talking fox? I remember that one because the fox was actually a female in that one and most of the time all the characters were male. She aids the youngest son (of three, and the older brothers are cads, of course) with a variety of tasks and then asks to be killed and her body mutilated as a reward. (Of course, this breaks the enchantment that returns her to her human form)

Yeah, I probably spent an unhealthy amount of my youth reading the Lang "Fairy" book stories and ancient myths.

It would explain why even my very young childhood imagination games involved not birthday parties and "mommy's having a baby!" but capture and slavery and enchantment and persecution.

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Date: 2007-08-26 02:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soxykitty.livejournal.com
Lol... Disney still managed to traumatize me with movies like Bambi. I mean seriously that's a horrible movie for little kids, it's scary.

I remember reading some of the older versions of fairy tales... I kinda thought Cinderella's stepsisters cutting off their toes to fit into a shoes was kinda funny, is that wrong of me? lol Seriously though I liked the older versions of the fariy tales.

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Date: 2007-08-27 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
Who WASN'T traumatized by the murder of Bambi's mother as a child?

Disney can still be pretty dark/scary - a couple years ago someone put out a "Scariest Movie Villains of All Time" list - Cruella DeVil and the Evil Queen from Snow White both made Top 10 of the females.

The one that really freaked me out? Great Mouse Detective. I saw about 3.5 minutes of that one at the movie theater before my dad had to take me out and to this DAY have not seen another second.

(There was a giant scarred BAT with a PEGLEG! And he attacked the poor wee little girl mouse and her father/grandfather in the middle of the night and kipnapped them! That movie is EVIL!)

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Date: 2007-08-27 09:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
...I just realized that probably what scared me so much about that opening scene was it's resemblance to the scene where Sikes kills Nancy in Oliver Twist. I read that book when I was only 6.5-7, which would have been right before the movie came out.

And I can STILL recall exactly how I felt reading that scene. One of the scariest things of my early childhood. Especially since they don't really tell you what's going on. They leave it up to your imagination...and I had a very active imagination.

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Date: 2007-08-25 04:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eloise-bright.livejournal.com
Rapunzel. With Sammy as Rapunzel, and Dean as the handsome prince. *nods*

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Date: 2007-08-25 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
Would writing a(n) (AU, slash, non-con)Peter Pan(the Disney movie) fic be a bit much?
I think the full "sick puppy" status hinges partly on whether it would be the antimated or live action version.

I never exactly thought of Tantalus as a fairy tale. I mean, not that some of the darker original-version fairy tales are much different in tone, but it's really a myth, no?

Wanting to write a fic based on The Aristocats is sad.
Depends. Would this be somesort of AU/non-con/beastiality fic? If not, you might be able to get away with claiming *some* version of normalcy.

After all, talking animals rule. No matter what the plot line.

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Date: 2007-08-25 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] r-a-l-i-g-h.livejournal.com
It'd be based on the cartoon.
Then, yes, you are approaching the absolute depths of sick puppy-dom.

Not that others haven't gone there before you. Well, not *specifically* there, perhaps... but who knows? It's not like I've been trolling the internet for R-rated Disney fic. (I've come across a surprisingly awful lot of it my happenstance, though.)

I know Tantalus is a myth. I just tossed it in there for fun.
Ah, so it was a case of dark, darker, darkest? (or is that angst, angstier, angst-iest?)

I'm fairly certain it'd end end up being incest. And possibly a death fic.
Uh-huh. Why should I have expected anything else?

Are you pairing Marie up with one of her brothers, or is this going to be slash-incest and Marie will be forced to turn to inter-species romance with Rochefort?

No wonder people thing fans and especially fanfic is whack.

(Of course, this path too, has been trod before. I remember way early in my internet experience, encountering summaries for novel-length R-rated Lion King fanfic involving non-con and incest.

And just a week or two ago I found out that there are more than a HUNDRED stories over at The Pit based on Watership Down.)

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Date: 2007-09-02 12:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amethyst-tigre.livejournal.com
They are in Nawlins(don't know why yet)maybe vampire nest--after Dean's deal--they go into a voodoo shop to buy supplies, s general restoring sorta thing, as they walk in they bump into a girl walking ou of the shop. Later Dean is eating a burger while Sammy's eating some southern fried chicken at the Crazy Pig. They see the same white(but not pale white, slightly tanned) girl eating fried catfish. then the next day they are walking down the street think up a plan with all the info tey got from the librry on where the nest is and they bump into the girl agin. Dean is on a short fuse when he realizes she picks their pockets.

Wow, how can you even suggest such a thing!

Date: 2007-09-09 05:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] motherlyclucker.livejournal.com
There is no way that Christian Bale is hotter than Jensen Ackles! I mean, Jensen is sexonlegs. Christina Bale is hot, in his own way, which is the dark brooding hero kind fo way. Jensen has a sense of humour. BUT, if they made out, i would die. The mere proximity to such a thing would burn me to ashes because of the sheer hotness. I would die happy though...

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